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		By: The Gator Guy		</title>
		<link>https://mushroom-scholars.org/global-englishes-discussion/comment-page-2/#comment-1385</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2025 22:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In the news today: Mother tongue or English in schools? The case in Nigeria... &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd7rlrzq88wo&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd7rlrzq88wo&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the news today: Mother tongue or English in schools? The case in Nigeria&#8230; <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd7rlrzq88wo" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd7rlrzq88wo</a></p>
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		By: picklez_the_cat		</title>
		<link>https://mushroom-scholars.org/global-englishes-discussion/comment-page-2/#comment-1372</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2025 11:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s no actual correct way to speak English as firstly, due to the fact that English is so widely used among people, people form different places had eventually combined the English language with terms and slangs they had and speaded that to other people, so even if there was a correct way to speak English, it would have been long gone now.

Secondly, I don&#039;t think that people would need a correct way to speak English in the first place, as English is just a language, a method of communication, so basically the one and only purpose of English is to help people communicate, so just as long people are able to understand each other, it doesn&#039;t matter.

**STILL GONA ADD TO THIS LATER&#060; NOT FINAL WORK!!!**]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s no actual correct way to speak English as firstly, due to the fact that English is so widely used among people, people form different places had eventually combined the English language with terms and slangs they had and speaded that to other people, so even if there was a correct way to speak English, it would have been long gone now.</p>
<p>Secondly, I don&#8217;t think that people would need a correct way to speak English in the first place, as English is just a language, a method of communication, so basically the one and only purpose of English is to help people communicate, so just as long people are able to understand each other, it doesn&#8217;t matter.</p>
<p>**STILL GONA ADD TO THIS LATER&lt; NOT FINAL WORK!!!**</p>
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		By: Mr Finch		</title>
		<link>https://mushroom-scholars.org/global-englishes-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-1370</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2025 05:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://mushroom-scholars.org/global-englishes-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-1311&quot;&gt;fatalErr0r&lt;/a&gt;.

Do you think that correct grammar is the easiest way?

There are many English learners who struggle with correct grammar and even in the Uk itself poor use of grammar such as &quot;me and my friend went to the cinema&quot; or &quot; I should of done this&quot; are quite common.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://mushroom-scholars.org/global-englishes-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-1311">fatalErr0r</a>.</p>
<p>Do you think that correct grammar is the easiest way?</p>
<p>There are many English learners who struggle with correct grammar and even in the Uk itself poor use of grammar such as &#8220;me and my friend went to the cinema&#8221; or &#8221; I should of done this&#8221; are quite common.</p>
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		By: The Gator Guy		</title>
		<link>https://mushroom-scholars.org/global-englishes-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-1368</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2025 01:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://mushroom-scholars.org/global-englishes-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-1346&quot;&gt;you know whoiam&lt;/a&gt;.

This is an important question, but I am tempted to add &#039;or both&#039; to it as I don&#039;t think forfeiting part of one&#039;s identity and gaining opportunities are mutually exclusive. I suppose the choice (and whether it is even a choice) would depend on the individual&#039;s values and economic situation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://mushroom-scholars.org/global-englishes-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-1346">you know whoiam</a>.</p>
<p>This is an important question, but I am tempted to add &#8216;or both&#8217; to it as I don&#8217;t think forfeiting part of one&#8217;s identity and gaining opportunities are mutually exclusive. I suppose the choice (and whether it is even a choice) would depend on the individual&#8217;s values and economic situation.</p>
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		By: ANNAyes		</title>
		<link>https://mushroom-scholars.org/global-englishes-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-1366</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2025 23:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://mushroom-scholars.org/global-englishes-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-1304&quot;&gt;The Bloke&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;span&gt;Well British pronunciation is basically the original version of English, and the American pronunciation is probably the most common pronunciation beyond British pronunciation, due to the history of America (I‘ll not mention it since we all know). Also in Kachru’s three circle, British and American speakers are listed in the inner circle, which is the native speaker at the very beginning,  and they spread English everywhere. English doesn’t restrict you to use certain pronunciation, also pronunciation depends on your growing environment, your parents and neighbors speak what accent, you probably will speak the same one. But I noticed in China, cnc English has a strict pronunciation rule for every single word. Mr finch said it’s because Chinese has a strict pronunciation rule with four pitches, the meaning will change with the change of pitch. So, Chinese people take pronunciation very seriously, then they made cnc English serious about pronunciation. I think another reason is that for foreigners, there isn’t a language environment where they can hear and learn accents, so it might be difficult to correctly pronounce a certain word at first. So they need guidelines to help them get it correct.&lt;/span&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://mushroom-scholars.org/global-englishes-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-1304">The Bloke</a>.</p>
<p><span>Well British pronunciation is basically the original version of English, and the American pronunciation is probably the most common pronunciation beyond British pronunciation, due to the history of America (I‘ll not mention it since we all know). Also in Kachru’s three circle, British and American speakers are listed in the inner circle, which is the native speaker at the very beginning,  and they spread English everywhere. English doesn’t restrict you to use certain pronunciation, also pronunciation depends on your growing environment, your parents and neighbors speak what accent, you probably will speak the same one. But I noticed in China, cnc English has a strict pronunciation rule for every single word. Mr finch said it’s because Chinese has a strict pronunciation rule with four pitches, the meaning will change with the change of pitch. So, Chinese people take pronunciation very seriously, then they made cnc English serious about pronunciation. I think another reason is that for foreigners, there isn’t a language environment where they can hear and learn accents, so it might be difficult to correctly pronounce a certain word at first. So they need guidelines to help them get it correct.</span></p>
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		By: CGDino4k		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2025 10:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://mushroom-scholars.org/global-englishes-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-1302&quot;&gt;The Bloke&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;i&gt;&lt;i&gt;The&lt;/i&gt; &lt;i&gt;short&lt;/i&gt; &lt;i&gt;of&lt;/i&gt; &lt;i&gt;it&lt;/i&gt; &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;/i&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;i&gt;yes&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;i&gt; &lt;i&gt;Indian&lt;/i&gt; English is considered a separate &lt;i&gt;variety&lt;/i&gt; &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; &lt;i&gt;has&lt;/i&gt; &lt;i&gt;some&lt;/i&gt; &lt;i&gt;features&lt;/i&gt; that are standard to most speakers of &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; variety, though &lt;i&gt;there&lt;/i&gt; &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; &lt;i&gt;considerable&lt;/i&gt; variation as the speakers of Indian English have a range of &lt;i&gt;other&lt;/i&gt; &lt;i&gt;languages&lt;/i&gt; influencing their pronunciation.&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://mushroom-scholars.org/global-englishes-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-1302">The Bloke</a>.</p>
<p><i></i><i>The</i> <i>short</i> <i>of</i> <i>it</i> <i>is</i> <i>that</i>, <strong><i></i><i>yes</i></strong><i> </i><i>Indian</i> English is considered a separate <i>variety</i> <i>and</i> <i>has</i> <i>some</i> <i>features</i> that are standard to most speakers of <i>that</i> variety, though <i>there</i> <i>is</i> <i>considerable</i> variation as the speakers of Indian English have a range of <i>other</i> <i>languages</i> influencing their pronunciation.</p>
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		By: CGDino4k		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2025 10:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[English isn’t just influential in the world, it’s completely influenced by every place it goes and changed by the people who use it, sometimes immutably. Both locally inflected new words and lingual blends that may be unintelligible to people who only speak Britain’s Standard English have been added to the versions of English taught in global schools.
These versions are then used by vast numbers of non-native speakers separated by thousands of miles. Not only are all the versions part of the same mother tongue, but they developed at very different times; some over hundreds of years, others in response to more recent exposure to pop culture.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>English isn’t just influential in the world, it’s completely influenced by every place it goes and changed by the people who use it, sometimes immutably. Both locally inflected new words and lingual blends that may be unintelligible to people who only speak Britain’s Standard English have been added to the versions of English taught in global schools.<br />
These versions are then used by vast numbers of non-native speakers separated by thousands of miles. Not only are all the versions part of the same mother tongue, but they developed at very different times; some over hundreds of years, others in response to more recent exposure to pop culture.</p>
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		By: CGDino4k		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CGDino4k]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2025 10:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://mushroom-scholars.org/global-englishes-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-1313&quot;&gt;<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f411.png" alt="🐑" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />&lt;/a&gt;.

Interesting, the source you read is the same as the one I read

&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/why-theres-no-right-way-to-speak-english&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;Why There&#039;s No &#039;Right&#039; Way To Speak English - Atlas Obscura&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://mushroom-scholars.org/global-englishes-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-1313">🐑</a>.</p>
<p>Interesting, the source you read is the same as the one I read</p>
<p><a href="https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/why-theres-no-right-way-to-speak-english" rel="nofollow ugc">Why There&#8217;s No &#8216;Right&#8217; Way To Speak English &#8211; Atlas Obscura</a></p>
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		By: The Gator Guy		</title>
		<link>https://mushroom-scholars.org/global-englishes-discussion/comment-page-2/#comment-1354</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Gator Guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2025 05:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hohoho... Ok, it&#039;s a bit early for Santa but I come bearing gifts from the high school Theory of Knowledge (ToK) programme that relates to our discussion here. Consider these following questions on the subject of Knowledge and Language:
&lt;ol&gt;
 	&lt;li&gt;Can all knowledge be expressed in words or symbols? (And you could consider this question the opposite way round - is it possible to know knowledge without being able to express it in language?)&lt;/li&gt;
 	&lt;li&gt;What knowledge might be lost if the whole world shared one common language?&lt;/li&gt;
 	&lt;li&gt;How do our values and assumptions influence the language in which we
express our ideas? (There is already a fair bit of discussion here on this topic already :) )&lt;/li&gt;
 	&lt;li&gt;In what ways can language be used to influence, persuade or manipulate people’s emotions?&lt;/li&gt;
 	&lt;li&gt;To what extent do the names and labels that we use help or hinder the
acquisition of knowledge?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ol&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hohoho&#8230; Ok, it&#8217;s a bit early for Santa but I come bearing gifts from the high school Theory of Knowledge (ToK) programme that relates to our discussion here. Consider these following questions on the subject of Knowledge and Language:</p>
<ol>
<li>Can all knowledge be expressed in words or symbols? (And you could consider this question the opposite way round &#8211; is it possible to know knowledge without being able to express it in language?)</li>
<li>What knowledge might be lost if the whole world shared one common language?</li>
<li>How do our values and assumptions influence the language in which we<br />
express our ideas? (There is already a fair bit of discussion here on this topic already 🙂 )</li>
<li>In what ways can language be used to influence, persuade or manipulate people’s emotions?</li>
<li>To what extent do the names and labels that we use help or hinder the<br />
acquisition of knowledge?</li>
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		By: Tree_not_me		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2025 14:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In my opinion, there are no “correct way” to speak English, there are only the original way and how it have changed during the spread of the English culture. Which is probably why the native people who has their own understanding of this language, think that their way of speaking English is the correct way]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my opinion, there are no “correct way” to speak English, there are only the original way and how it have changed during the spread of the English culture. Which is probably why the native people who has their own understanding of this language, think that their way of speaking English is the correct way</p>
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		By: The Gator Guy		</title>
		<link>https://mushroom-scholars.org/global-englishes-discussion/comment-page-2/#comment-1348</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2025 11:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://mushroom-scholars.org/global-englishes-discussion/comment-page-2/#comment-1347&quot;&gt;you know whoiam&lt;/a&gt;.

Nicely expressed: &quot;The idea that a British or American accent sounds more “proper” is a trained bias – not a linguistic fact.&quot; <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d.png" alt="👍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://mushroom-scholars.org/global-englishes-discussion/comment-page-2/#comment-1347">you know whoiam</a>.</p>
<p>Nicely expressed: &#8220;The idea that a British or American accent sounds more “proper” is a trained bias – not a linguistic fact.&#8221; 👍</p>
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		By: you know whoiam		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2025 08:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Since English is no longer just a language but rather a network of voices influenced by geography, power, and identity, I believe there are multiple &quot;correct&quot; ways to speak the language.

A language will inevitably adapt to local contexts as it spreads throughout the world. Words, pronunciations, and even sentence structures change to reflect people&#039;s realities, whether they be related to the social structures, foods, weather, or technology in their environment. Therefore, it&#039;s not about one version being &quot;pure&quot; or &quot;right,&quot; but rather about each version being useful and significant to its users.

Indian English, Singapore English, and Jamaican Patois, for instance, all have similar origins but have evolved to reflect various cultures. Although we refer to them as &quot;varieties,&quot; they are all acceptable forms of English communication.
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I​&#x200d;​‌&#x200d;​&#x200d;‌​&#x200d;​‌&#x200d;​&#x200d;‌ believe that the idea of a single correct version is largely influenced by social class and colonial heritage, rather than being based on linguistic logic. The idea that a British or American accent sounds more &quot;proper&quot; is a trained bias - not a linguistic fact. Therefore, if English is a means of communication, then understanding, rather than copying, should be the criterion of ​&#x200d;​‌&#x200d;​&#x200d;‌​&#x200d;​‌&#x200d;​&#x200d;‌correctness.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since English is no longer just a language but rather a network of voices influenced by geography, power, and identity, I believe there are multiple &#8220;correct&#8221; ways to speak the language.</p>
<p>A language will inevitably adapt to local contexts as it spreads throughout the world. Words, pronunciations, and even sentence structures change to reflect people&#8217;s realities, whether they be related to the social structures, foods, weather, or technology in their environment. Therefore, it&#8217;s not about one version being &#8220;pure&#8221; or &#8220;right,&#8221; but rather about each version being useful and significant to its users.</p>
<p>Indian English, Singapore English, and Jamaican Patois, for instance, all have similar origins but have evolved to reflect various cultures. Although we refer to them as &#8220;varieties,&#8221; they are all acceptable forms of English communication.<br />
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<p>I​‍​‌‍​‍‌​‍​‌‍​‍‌ believe that the idea of a single correct version is largely influenced by social class and colonial heritage, rather than being based on linguistic logic. The idea that a British or American accent sounds more &#8220;proper&#8221; is a trained bias &#8211; not a linguistic fact. Therefore, if English is a means of communication, then understanding, rather than copying, should be the criterion of ​‍​‌‍​‍‌​‍​‌‍​‍‌correctness.</p>
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